James Becker, author of THE LOST TREASURE OF THE TEMPLARS and the bestselling
thrillers of the Chris Bronson series, joins Fresh Fiction to discuss
his fascination with history, his current release, and what his fans can
look
forward to in the future.
Jen: Hi, James. Thank you for joining us at Fresh Fiction. The
historical details in THE LOST TREASURE OF THE TEMPLARS, and all your novels
for
that matter, are always crucial to the plot and the telling of the story.
Events of the past still shape and determine the actions of people today.
What
is the importance of history to you and why does it fascinate you?
James: I studied history – mediaeval history, in fact – at school
(quite
a while ago!), and I've always had a keen interest in this period in
particular, though all history fascinates me. I've always believed that you
cannot properly understand any country or city unless you know where it came
from, how it developed and the kind of people who lived there in the past.
Ultimately, cities and countries are just landscapes interspersed by
collections of buildings: it's the citizens, numbered among both the living
and
the dead, who provide the spark of life and give a location its enduring
character.
History is important. The writer F W Holiday said that the future is
the
past coming in through a new door, and that's absolutely true. There is
little
that is truly new in human relations and conduct, and you can find parallels
between the events of today and an enormous number of historical examples,
parallels that would hopefully allow the mistakes of the past to be avoided
in
the present. The down side of that expectation is that it's also true that
the
one thing human beings learn from history is that human beings never learn
from
history!
Jen: Ancient orders and secret societies make for thrilling stories,
and
the Knights Templar are surrounded by secrets and mystery. Can you tell us
an
interesting fact you learned that didn’t make it into the book or maybe give
us
a hint at what secrets may still be revealed in the second book of this new
trilogy?
James: The second book explores the following in some detail.
It's almost certain that the 'secret' orders issued by Philip the Fair of
France for the Templars to be arrested en masse in 1307 were actually known
about by the Order well in advance. The most compelling evidence for this is
that, despite the huge size and enormous assets of the Templars – they were
far
more wealthy than most European nations at the time – when the French troops
seized their commanderies throughout France they found almost no treasure
and
only a skeleton staff in the Templar buildings.
The obvious implication is that, with no way of resisting the French troops
–
the Templars were based in locations within France, surrounded by enemy
forces,
so their buildings could never have withstood prolonged sieges – the Order
had
done its best to protect both its assets and its members.
That obviously begs the question: where did the knights and their treasure
end
up? There's probably more than one answer to this. Certainly it's likely
that
they would have used their large fleet of ships to transport their wealth to
countries likely to welcome them, which would have included Britain and
Portugal, and there's a persistent rumour that whatever lies hidden at the
bottom of the Money Pit on Oak Island in Nova Scotia is actually the bulk of
the Templar hoard.
All the excavations so far conducted at this location have failed to recover
anything, and there seems no prospect of this situation changing in the near
future, so whether or not there's any truth in this story may never be
proven.
What is certain is that whoever constructed this hiding place possessed a
very
high degree of engineering ability – it's a long way from just being a deep
hole in the ground – and the Templars certainly had this level of skill, as
an
inspection of any of their surviving buildings would prove.
However, a rather more believable location for the fate of at least some of
the
Templar treasure is a lot closer to their original homeland of France.
An interesting event occurred near what is now the St Gotthard Pass in
Switzerland in November 1315. A large, professionally-trained and well-
equipped
Habsburg Austrian army was not just defeated but completely routed by a rag-
tag
collection of farmers and peasants who were out-numbered about ten to one.
Their surprising victory was due to superior military tactics and utter
ruthlessness, and was allegedly coordinated by a handful of white knights –
meaning knights who were independent and owed allegiance to no lord or ruler
–
who had tutored and instructed the peasant army.
The identity of these knights has never been confirmed but the date, only
eight
years after the mass arrests of the Templars, is obviously significant. If
members of the Knights Templar were looking for a new home, the lawless
cantons
of the fledgling Switzerland – a country that technically still does not
exist
as a nation even today, being simply a confederation of separate cantons –
would probably have been a good choice.
The Templars could have exchanged their military prowess and ability – and
they
were without question the best-trained and equipped troops in the world in
those days – for the right to settle in the area. This arrangement would
have
benefitted both parties, the ill-equipped local troops acquiring a highly
professional fighting force to assist and defend them, while the Templars
would
have been out of reach of any retribution from the French.
So is there any evidence that this is what happened? Yes, unquestionably.
First, the flag of Switzerland bears more than a casual relationship to the
croix pattée, one of the most enduring of the Templar symbols. That,
however,
could simply be explained away as coincidence.
Much more difficult to explain is the fact that, within a very short time
indeed, the untutored and uneducated peasants who occupied the high pastures
of
Switzerland introduced a unified banking system that grew to dominate
Europe,
as it still does, in fact. This banking system was essentially
indistinguishable from that operated across Europe and the Mediterranean by
the
Knights Templar, the system they had developed over the previous two
centuries.
There is no obvious way that a society with a subsistence agricultural
economy
could have changed its fortunes so dramatically in such a short time without
both expert help and financial muscle. And quite literally the only people
that
could have provided this kind of help, because nobody else in Europe
possessed
the required level of wealth, experience and knowledge, were the Templars.
Jen: Robin and David make an extraordinary team, and for being new
acquaintances at the beginning of the story, they’re attuned to each other
almost immediately. It’s not only attraction, but a partnership that helps
them
survive. Do you think this instant connection comes from their extraordinary
circumstances or would Robin and David have found each other eventually?
James: I'd like to think that if they had met, they would have got on
well together, but because they moved in very different circles, without the
triggering event at the beginning of this book it's unlikely they would ever
have encountered each other. Oddly enough, in real life, unusual events
(though
perhaps not quite so unusual as the event described in this book!) do have a
habit of throwing people together and can result in long-term relationships.
We
met a couple who are now very good friends in a lift in a department store
in
Andorra and exchanged nothing more than a friendly greeting. Everything else
in
our relationship grew from that single sentence. And I met my wife as a
direct
result of a letter published by a third party in a magazine on the other
side
of the world.
It's also the case that adversity tends to make people reveal their true
colours very quickly, and in this book the problems and dangers the two of
them
face more or less ensure that they will establish a relationship of some
sort.
As it turns out, these two individuals are complementary in their characters
and abilities, and the circumstances in which they find themselves very
quickly
develop their trust and confidence in each other. They make a good team, and
they will develop further in the following two books.
Jen: What book is currently on your nightstand?
James: The current book is a hardback copy of IN SEARCH OF THE
KNIGHTS
TEMPLAR by Simon Brighton. This a very brief history of the Knights
Templar, but more importantly a detailed survey of all the sites in the
United
Kingdom associated with the Order. I'm reading this because I have a real
interest in the Templars and read a lot about them, but more importantly
because I have two more books to write about the Order, and I'm looking for
suitable locations to set certain scenes, especially in the third book,
which
will end somewhere in Great Britain.
My normal reading matter – and I usually end up reading several books
concurrently – tends to comprise both non-fiction works related to whatever
I'm
working on at the time, and novels in the same broad genres as the stuff I
write, which normally means thrillers. So in addition to the Templar book,
I'm
also reading GONE TOMORROW by Lee Child and THE
OVERLOOK by Michael Connelly, as well as reading THE SEVEN STARS by Simon
Leighton-Porter on my Kindle.
Jen: THE LOST TREASURE OF THE TEMPLARS is only the beginning
for
Robin and David. Are you working on the next book in this series or will we
get
to see more of Chris Bronson in the future?
James: Yes, this novel is the first book of a trilogy, and I'm
currently
writing the second novel, working title The Archive of the Damned.
This
which will pick up the story where THE LOST TREASURE OF THE TEMPLARS left off,
and
the final book, The Brotherhood of the Skull, will complete the
trilogy.
So far, I haven't given very much thought to Robin Jessop and David Mallory
extending their adventurous relationship beyond these three books, but
that's
something I'll certainly be looking at a bit later.
Interestingly, Chris Bronson and Angela Lewis will be appearing again in
print,
because as well as writing these three books for Signet in the USA I've also
written an entirely new novel about the Templars for Transworld in
the
UK. This will be entitled THE TEMPLAR HERESY, and will probably be
published towards the end of 2015 or early next year. Although the subject
matter is broadly the same, this book has an entirely different plot to the
trilogy and offers a different slant on the Knights Templar, and in
particular
on one specific aspect of their belief system. This novel, like all the
others
featuring these two protagonists, is a complete story in itself.
Jen: Thank you so much for sharing your stories and you passion for
history with us!
James Becker spent over twenty years in the Royal Navy's Fleet Air
arm
and served during Falklands War . Throughout his career he has been involved
in
covert operations in many of the world's hotspots; places like Yemen,
Northern
Ireland and Russia. He is an accomplished combat pistol shot and has an
abiding
interest in ancient and medieval history.
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The national bestselling author of The Lost Testament returns
in a
thrilling new novel that uncovers the powerful secrets of the Knight Templar
—
and a conspiracy too shocking to believe.
In a quiet English seaside town, antiquarian bookseller Robin Jessop has
acquired an odd medieval volume. What appears to be a book isn’t a book at
all,
but a cleverly disguised safe, in which she finds a single rolled parchment,
written in code.
For encryption expert David Mallory, the text is impenetrable. Until an
invaluable clue opens the door to a mystery, and a conspiracy, stretching
back
seven centuries, when the most powerful man in Europe declared war on the
most
powerful clan, the Knights Templar.
Now, Jessop and Mallory find themselves on a global hunt for an unsurpassed
treasure and this much closer to the keys to secrets that could change
history,
topple an empire, and bury them both alive. Because they’re not only the
hunters. They’re also the hunted.
2 comments posted.
If I ever read an interview that kept me glued to my seat, this definately had to be the one!! I enjoy reading about History myself, regardless of the Country, and know that I'm going to enjoy this book!! Thank you so much for coming today, and letting us know about your latest book!! I can't wait to read it, and am sure I'm going to enjoy the trilogy!! I think that you just picked up a new fan!! Congratulations on what I'm sure is going to be a huge hit!!
(Peggy Roberson 10:14am July 27, 2015)